S03.E09: Bogey - Manifest - PRIMETIMER

On 5/14/2021 at 10:55 AM, CCTC said: Was it mentioned that Michaela and Jaredhad been together 12 years? Was she 16 and he 30 (I suppose she did lose five years)? I think Beverly said something to Zeke in this episode about 12 years, seemingly referring to how long Michaela and Jared have (had) been

On 5/14/2021 at 10:55 AM, CCTC said:

Was it mentioned that Michaela and Jared had been together 12 years?  Was she 16 and he 30 (I suppose she did lose five years)?

I think Beverly said something to Zeke in this episode about 12 years, seemingly referring to how long Michaela and Jared have (had) been together. Presumably because of her dementia she is counting 12 years from before she lost her memory--i.e., before the plane disappeared. From previous episodes (including old photos Michaela looked at), I got the impression that she and Evie were childhood friends and that Michaela and Jared had been together since high school or not long after. Let's say Michaela and Jared got together when they were 16-17, or maybe she was 16-17 and he was 18-19. So 12 years later, before the plane crashed, that would make them both about 28-29 (if they were the same age when they got together), or 28-29 for M and 30-31 for J--which seems about right for how they looked when they showed flashbacks of his proposal. After the plane returned, J was 5 years older (so either 33-34 or 35-36) but M still looked 28-29 (and in any case women in their early to mid-30s don't usually look much different than in their late 20s). Now add the year or two since the plane returned, and that would make J mid- to late 30s and M at most early 30s. That seems consistent with how they look. However, math is my weakest subject and my calculations may be off (plus now my head hurts from trying to work this out).

On 5/15/2021 at 9:18 AM, ottoDbusdriver said:

Did Ben say to Eagen that his man-cave of 828 information was "years of painstaking research" ?  Uh, about that.  Technically Flight 828 returned in Nov. 2019 and based on certain date references it is currently only about mid-July 2020 within the context of the show.  So, yeah, not "years" of research.

I thought that Ben or someone said in a previous episode (maybe one of the early ones of this season) that it's been 2 years since they returned. Even if I'm wrong about that, your dates don't make sense given the baby's age--between Nov. 2019 and July 2020 there would not be enough time for the 7 months of pregnancy (I think Eden was born at 28 weeks) plus the 6-9 months of age that she appears to be now (not that I'm an expert on baby ages, but she definitely does not have the newborn or early infant look she had in earlier episodes). So Ben must have had time for more than a year of research, and probably close to 2 years. (But again, my head hurts from trying to work out the math.) And it probably feels like years to him, because it has definitely been painstaking.

On 5/15/2021 at 3:12 PM, SweaterGirl said:

The Noahs Ark is a red herring. The lie was not only Saanvi's but Vance's. Think about it...he said himself it was the greatest secret in NSA history...if so, of course he's going to invent a false secret to tell Saanvi. He knew she would tell. It's something else, either the Al Zuras ship or aliens, time travel, teleportation, or something. Saanvi was healed because she came clean on the only lie she knew about.

I can't remember--does Saanvi know about them keeping the dead bodies of the 828 murder victim and the 3 meth heads? That would be a pretty big secret aside from Noah's Ark, especially if the NSA is using them to try to find a way to resurrect dead people. 

 

On 5/17/2021 at 12:38 PM, tennisgurl said:

Angelina really did a zero to forty turning into some kind of stalker who wants to steal Olive's life, although I guess about a month has passed so we can assume things have escalated to the point that Olive freaked out on her and her creepy hair dying. I guess it does seem in character, Angelina presumably has an intense desire to be loved coming from her screwed up parents, the kind of screwed up that makes a person feel like her true love is an unstable imprisoned meth addict she met for three seconds when she was a kid and makes her want to remake herself into a teenager because of her seemingly perfect life with a perfect family she wants to be a part of.

I agree with this interpretation, although the writers seem to be trying to give her an evil vibe. But either way, I have no interest in this story and wish they had not started it, because it takes away from overall mystery. While I do like the show being about family and relationships as well as sci-fi, this Angelina-Olive plot is too soapy and totally unnecessary.

 

On 5/15/2021 at 3:12 PM, SweaterGirl said:

Thoughts anyone??

I meant to quote more of your post, but I like your theories and agree that it is likely the Major is not dead, although I find it hard to believe that Vance would work with her because it feels like he really is a good guy. Also, while I have my suspicions about Sarah, I'm not sure if she is intentionally being a spy for her mother or is somehow being manipulated. Or--and this just occurred to me--she may not be the Major's daughter at all! Maybe she works for the Major and was sent to impersonate the Major's daughter so she could get access to what Michaela and Ben know. She did make her initial pitch to Michaela, but probably figured Jared would be almost as helpful after Michaela turned her down.   

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